Punks, Crybabies & Has-beens
March 15, 2006 by Joe L.
You want egos? You want no-talents? You want whiners?
Then look no further than the list of wrestlers who define those three terms. These wrestlers exemplify the worst in professional wrestling not just because of their egos, not just because of their self-serving attitude and horrendous wrestling skills but because they think they are better than everyone else, they think they know everything and they think they are the greatest in the world. Well, they are not. They are far from decent. They are the bottom of the barrel, the crap you want to scrap off your shoes and the most worthless "wrestlers" in the history of this great sport.
These guys are a contrast to the other wrestlers, who vary in size, talent and character, but always put their best damn effort to impress their bosses, entertain the fans and always try hard to get over. They deserve respect for their hard work and love for the business. John Cena, Kane and the Big Show will always be criticized for their formulaic moveset but you cannot deny that these guys work really hard, especially Cena, who always acts natural in front of the hostile crowd. That's what sets them apart from guys like Bill Goldberg and Sid Vicious, who care nothing about anyone other than money and themselves and still could not draw a freaking dime .
Other guys, such as Hulk Hogan, Triple H, Steve Austin and the Undertaker deserve their brag of fame after achieving great success. As much as I hate Hulk Hogan for what he did to WCW, even I must admit that he helped turned the WWF into a billion-dollar monster during his years with the company and his nostalgic appearances in shows helped contribute financial success for the WWE so that is why he is not included. Therefore, he does have something to prove when questioned about his greatness.
The same cannot be said, however, for those who were put over as the future of professional wrestling but then ended up meaning nothing to their peers. It is depressing when one wrestler is pushed as the next big star and then falls into the crapper due to egos, personal issues and loss of passion for this sport. It's worse when this wrestler turns out to be an obnoxious bastard in real life in the contrary of his persona in the ring. That is the definition of worthless.
And worthless would most certainly describe the following wrestlers who mean little to nothing in wrestling. So ladies and gentlemen, bake some popcorn, fill your drinks and bring your friends and family as you will bear witness to the most earth-shattering display of ineptitude and incompetence ever to blind your sensitive eyes.
In all seriousness, just read the list of the crybabies, has-beens and the punks in professional wrestling. This is just Part I. I will start Part II in the future.
Bill Goldberg -
It is extremely obvious that everyone in the OWW.com dislikes Bill Goldberg. He's not the only one. No other wrestler exemplifies what is wrong with wrestling than everyone's favorite Steve Austin clone from Atlanta, Georgia. Bill Goldberg may well be the most overrated "wrestler" to ever step foot in the wrestling business. Look up the term ego on the dictionary, you will find a picture of Bill Goldberg. He contributes nothing good to the industry other than showing just how damn sloppy you can be if you are not trained to be a wrestler, instead of being picked up from a football team. Back in WCW, he once meant something but the reality is that Goldberg does not give shite about the company and the wrestlers he worked with. From injuring wrestlers with complete recklessness to demanding MORE money, even though he works less than 99% percent of the rest of the roster, even the WWE regrets ever signing this money-loving idiot because of his big-ass ego. Hulk Hogan seems generous compared to Bill Goldberg. People can bash the WWE all they want about mishandling Goldberg but the blame should go straight to the Man himself. From refusing to work with Triple H to no-showing at an Australia tour to getting into shuffles with Chris Jericho to making MORE demands prior to his contract expiration, when Bitchy Bill does not get what he wants, he cries like a baby. But according to him, all the blame should go to the WWE. Living proof that he fails to realize that he means as much to wrestling these days as the Ultimate Warrior.
And don't get me started with his wrestling, either. When even El Gigante can wrestle better than this reckless, self-centered piece of cow dung, then he's got problems. Other than some good matches with Diamond Dallas Page and Chris Jericho and an entertaining brawl with Scott Steiner, all of Goldberg's matches have been nothing been squashes, squashes and even more squashes. What's worse is that they are pointless and they completely destroy the heat of talented wrestlers who actually have a great future. All of this is built up by what Goldberg likes to call, a legacy to his career. I question anyone on how they considered getting wins over Renegade, Barry Horowitz and other jobbers a legacy. Is Goldberg trying to tell us that burying midcarders helps make you a star? Did Taz ever consider destroying hundreds of ECW jobbers a legacy to his career? What about Bobby Lashley, who has spent weeks dismantling losers from SMACKDOWN? Does he consider that a legacy? It's one thing to squash wrestlers and improve a lot when you become champion. Brock Lesnar squashed a lot of RAW midcarders but he was a tremendous athlete and it showed during his main event matches. Ditto Samoa Joe in TNA. Goldberg never improved, he never expanded his move set and he refused to work with certain wrestlers just because he thought he was bigger than everyone else.
Furthermore, what does it say when Bill Goldberg considered himself a veteran two-three years after debuting in WCW? To be a veteran is to be around a company for an excessive long period of time, gain some experience and teach those youthful wrestlers that experience. Yet Goldberg called himself a veteran just as he won the WCW World title? Give me a break. Combine all this with his laughable promos, sloppy in-ring performances and ending Bret Hart's career and you've got one huge heap of suck wrapped in a disease-infested bag.
Kevin Nash -
For years, critics have lambasted Kevin Nash for being injury prone and doing little in the ring, despite his constant main event pushes. When he made his first triumphant return in the WWE in 2002, Nash proved those critics...right. Despite only wrestling in a scarce of WWE matches, Nash immediately injured his arm with not even little effort and was kept in the sideline for a couple of months before returning to RAW in July and THEN ending up tearing his quad in a matter of 15 seconds. That's called dedication, folks. Even laziness shows how much sacrifice your body will take in the ring. Sarcasm aside, Kevin Nash will go down as one of the biggest wastes of money ever since Scott Steiner, especially when you look at his insipid performances in the WWE and TNA. Over-hyped with little value, Kevin Nash is a lazy, heatless, broken-down dinosaur who moves like a snail and wrestles like he's got tree branches instead of bones in his body. Big Sexy, the Giant Killer?!! How about Big Lazy, the Workrate Killer?
Yet despite all this, this ego-ridden punk was put in a World Championship feud against Triple H in 2003, which did nothing for the company, other than give us (and the fans) some of the most agonizing PPV main events and boring interviews since...well, KEVIN Nash vs. Randy Savage from 1999. And for all his accolades and proclamation on how he rose to fame, not even a phenomenal worker in Triple H could carry this heatless dinosaur to a good match. Whether it had anything to do with politics is in debate but why the WWE would consider pushing Kevin Nash over hard-working talent like Booker T and Chris Jericho in a World title feud is enough to cause seizures. Never mind the fact that Nash was repeatedly booed out of the building in consecutive RAW episodes and that no one bought him as a legitimate threat but the fact that he received a World title shot TWICE is mind-boggling. Eventually though, Nash proved his usefulness by jobbing to HEAT midcarder Test and Chris Jericho on RAW and then at SummerSlam, before his contract expiration at the end of the year.
It boggles my mind that wrestling promotions these days believe that Kevin Nash could help lead them to success, even though he drew some of the lowest PPV buyrates in WWE history, not to mention wrestles a total amount of 12 times a year. The fact to the matter is this: Kevin Nash has made ZERO positive contributions for the companies that give him a contract, does little to help other wrestlers and unlike Hogan or Flair, you can't go back to Nash and come back successful. Kevin Nash is more than abysmal; he is inept, he is boring and most importantly, he is extremely worthless.
Billy Gunn -
Speaking of worthless, what do you call a crappy wrestler who had everything that most wrestlers would never have, got shoved down our throats hundreds of times in spite of his nonexistent workrate, blew it all in a great display of stupidity and whines like he was the most important man to ever exist in this world? Easy, a pathetic loser who lashes out at other wrestlers because he cannot face the fact that he means nothing to wrestling. Enter Billy Gunn, the epitome of pure waste. Despite countless gimmicks and rubs in trying to get him over, this walking balloon would be jobbing to midcarders had he not befriend Shawn Michaels or Kevin Nash and the fact that he heralds himself as a great wrestler is enough to make even a cynic laugh. Rightly considered a terrible worker by Dave Meltzer, Billy Gunn can point fingers at wrestlers like Triple H and blame them for his career being wrecked all he wants but nobody is ever going to buy a guy who received more semi-main event pushes than there were Hardcore title changes and benefited little from it.
What's even funny (or sad) is that the primary reason that Billy Gunn is attacking wrestlers like Triple H is just so he can draw attention to himself and have all the Internet fans respect him. Because he is so deprived of a joy and refuses to move on with his life like any normal human being would do, he feels the need to make up a shoot interview and trash Hunter just so he can kiss the Internet fans' ass. You do not believe me? Here is a sample of his shoot interview:
"He's (Triple H) an evil person. When you're up there...everybody knows that he runs the show and if he doesn't like it, or he doesn't like you, he'll say one thing in front of you, but he'll turn right around and stab you right in the back"."
Normally I would say, "SEE, THERE'S PROOF!!! TRIPLE H IS A BACKSTABBING PRICK!!!" But when it's coming from Billy Gunn, a man who was shoved down our throat more times than Jeff Jarrett, then you cannot really take him seriously. And for all his overexposure, Triple H is still a great wrestler with good comic timing, in-ring credibility and decent promo skills. Also Triple H was given a main event push and ran the ball with it, becoming one of the most successful stars in the industry, which is something Billy Gunn never achieved and will likely never get over. Billy Gunn then stated in a recent interview that he would have beat Triple H's ass in real life but could not because he had to support his family. Yeah, sure. Billy Gunn, who throws wussy punches like a girl can take on Triple H. Besides that, Billy must not have watched RAW for the past several months because I did not recall Triple H being in the World title picture since June until today. Meanwhile, he and his partner B.G. James have hogged the TNA undercard since his arrival with the never-ending 4Live Kru saga and has wrestled the same damn match with Team Canada. Could bitterness and ego contribute to this nonsense? Nah, it must be Triple H's fault.
Let me ask you fans something else, did you ever pay your hard-earned money to see a Billy Gunn match? I didn't think so.
So what you got here is a bitter, self-serving loser who refuses to grow up like a mature adult and focus on the future instead being trapped in the mindless past. Now Billy Gunn knows how it feels to be treated like a jobber in and out of the ring because that's what he could have been had he not been part of the DX stable, which included Triple H. As a solo star, he's had no success, achieved nothing and has no legacy. People will forget him the moment he retires.
Mark Henry -
By late August, Mark Henry's ten-year, $10 million wrestling contract comes to an end and thank goodness. I apologize to all the Mark Henry fans (as if there is any) but doing nothing worthwhile for ten years while making $1 million each year where other workers make at least $250,000-300,000 a year is ridiculous. For the past decade, Mark has been engulfed in one embarrassing angle after another ranging from having sex with a transvestite to Sexual Chocolate to impregnating Mae Young to lifting cars to show off his strength. I am completely surprised that he did not ask for a release when all of this were happening. But then again, when you make $1 million a year by doing jackshit, how can you not leave? In the ring, Mark left little to desire and has not have a good match ever. Now that he is slated for a big WrestleMania match against the Undertaker, expect this to be his last hurrah as if anyone cares. Hopefully, he will go away for good and take the stench that he left in the ring for the past ten years with him.
Jeff Hardy -
How art the mighty have fallen. From being dubbed as a future main eventer to being neglected in pre-PPV matches and reduced to having garbage matches with Abyss, Raven and Rhino. It's hard to believe that Jeff Hardy was considered as the next Shawn Michaels a few years ago. Boy, does time ever change? Watching Jeff Hardy today and Jeff Hardy back in 1999 is like watching two different versions of a movie classic. Back in those days, Jeff could go and wrestle like there was no tomorrow. Today, Jeff Hardy needs to be put through tables to have a good match. Sad, isn't it?
I once respected Jeff Hardy, even when he blew lots of spots and performed sloppily in the ring during his last days in the WWE. But when he came to TNA, it was quite obvious that his passion in wrestling was gone. From one horrible match to another, even with good wrestlers and decent brawlers, Jeff Hardy went from a talented spot monkey to an inept, mediocre archer (which means not hitting the spot in the bullseye target). Jeff also reached new heights of ineptitude by no-showing three PPV events and still getting employed, despite doing nothing for TNA and getting more money than most of the roster.
It is often said that regardless of how messy your in-ring performance is, as long as you really put in a lot of effort and respect the people around you, you will be forever praised by your peers. Not Jeff Hardy. Jeff Hardy will never come close to Shawn Michaels or Sabu in terms of dedication to this sport and doing your damn best to entertain the fans. Sabu was sometimes sloppy but he had a great contribution to this sport and it was his reckless moves and dangerous, gutsy spots that made him a huge fan favorite. When you look at Jeff Hardy, you don't look at a guy working his ass off; you're looking at a guy who just goes to work to collect his paycheck. You're looking at a man whose merchandise will keep selling but his respect will never be earned. You are looking at a has-been.
Ultimate Warrior -
Aaahh, the Ultimate Warrior. How dreadfully dull would this list be without everyone's favorite gay-bashing, ultra-right-wing retard from Woyah Land? If anyone deserves to be on this list more than anybody, it's Jim Hellwig: The Ultimate Pinhead, the Supreme Retard, the Colossus of Sloppiness. I could make better and more logical nicknames of the Ultimate Warrior but that would be overstaying my welcome. The truth to the matter is that the Warrior eclipses Goldberg, Sid and Kevin Nash as the most worthless, talent-less, brainless and valueless wrestler to ever exist in the world.
The Warrior could have been the next Hulk Hogan. He had incredibly strong fan following, his gimmick electrified the audience and his mind-numbingly incoherent interviews were made up by such great unparallel intensity. Instead, he became a direct opposite. As soon as he won the WWE Championship from Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania VI, it was a start of a strong decline to the Woyah's career. He could have been the next big thing but rather than compensating that success into establish himself as a major player, he used it for his own personal gains, to fill money in his pocket and to show what a great leader he was by getting into a fight with Rick Rude and almost ending other wrestlers' careers with his horrendous wrestling skills. He never worked hard, he cared only about himself and his fan value and drawing abilities deteriorated greatly as a result of his character, in and out of the ring.
The Warrior was given hundreds of chances by the WWE after being repeatedly fired for his disruptive behavior. Say what you want about the WWE's venomous portrayal of Hellwig on the "Self-Destruction" DVD but you have to admit, had the WWE not existed back in 1992, the Warrior would be reduced in working at little Independent organizations and sit his ass at home and sulk. Not surprisingly, it blew up in his face and his inability to control his ego would signal the beginning of an end to his "legacy."
Normally, this debacle would be long and forgotten but the Ultimate Warrior made an even greater idiot of himself by living his gimmick in real life like he was still in a wrestling storyline. How else to explain his convoluted words of wisdom on his laughable website or his overblown sentences, meanings and tips that are either confusing or comical? Who the hell has a name on their ID that says 'Warrior Warrior'? And do not get me started with the politics. All that needs to be said can be found on my other anti-Warrior article, "Jim Hellwig: The Ultimate Pinhead".
Egos, no-talent, whiner...the three established terms that would describe any man but they will forever be linked to one Ultimate Warrior, the personification of pure suck and the representation of the crappiness that has engulfed wrestling for what seems like an eternity. But if you thought the Warrior is out of the wrestling picture, think again. Now he seems to be encouraging TNA to bring him and Goldberg so that they can tear the house down. Those two could not even knock down a sandcastle. This is an advice to TNA: do not, I repeat, do not sign Goldberg or Warrior. They will cause pain than pleasure.
Bring in Sting and Bret Hart and Scott Steiner (if he is motivated) but leave Warrior and Goldberg alone.
Let them stew.
Part II will take a while but I promise it will show up.
by Joe L. --- [View Joe L's Column Index]..
Matthue Okarmus wrote:
Very nice article. As soon as I started reading it, I couldn't stop. You brought up some good points, but I think the main thing that was left out is how these people are still hogging up time while it could to useful people. Having Billy Gunn and Kevin Nash in TNA was/is doing nothing more than holding the ones that are getting no time back. If you read my article about Hassan, you can see my feelings for Mark Henry. I could not believe he had the main event spot at the Rumble. Since there is a part two, I really hope you include Brock Lesnar on that list. Here is a guy that got the fans behind him, and he left to go play football???? I can understand The Rock, sometimes you just gotta make decisions. But upon Brock's exit, he started badmouthing the fans. The same people that gave him all the money he has. Anyways man, thanks for the article. Looking forward to number two
this was a good article, it was spot on. Part 2 should be great don't forget to add Juventud, what a fool.
Steve H. wrote:Interested to hear your thoughts, you've obviously put a lot of effort into the column...
Not sure I agree with all of the points you've raised - sure we all know the stories of the Warrior and Goldberg, they are well documented. I'm not a Billy Gunn fanatic, but I'm sure he tried to get himself over early as part of the Smokin' Gunns. Sure - he was never a great draw as a singles competitor and him being KOTR was a waste of time but the New Age Outlaws lasted the test of time. As a duo, they fueded with several teams and had the fans cheering at least for their entrance and mic skills if not their matches. Maybe they are past it now as we see them in TNA, but I've not heard of Gunn missing dates, no-showing or upsetting folks backstage, and we all know the demands and hectic travel schedules of Superstars, so maybe he gave it his all generally - recent internet rants aside.
Steve Autin you mentioned as "deserving his brag of fame after achieving great success". Sure he was a great performer and had possibly the best feud of the 90's with McMahon. But on more than one occasion, for apparently not wanting to job to Lesnar, and not liking the storylines he was put in, he got up and walked right out!
I agree, he pulled WWE back when maybe they were failing in the Monday Night War, but those sound like the actions of a PUNK and a CRY BABY.
Sabu you also mentioned as being a great performer in terms of always putting on a display for the crowd - couldn't agree with you more - but he is infamous for not liking to lose cleanly by pinfall.
Don't get me wrong, not bashing your column - really enjoyed it. However, we'll never really know the full stories of backstage politics or plain pig-headedness, but one thing is for sure as your column points out well, the industry is full of money grabbing dicks who will never care as much about the performance and the fans as some of the less well paid stars do. Sadly, I doubt that'll ever change.
I would like to thank you for giving me a good laugh with your article. Why am I laughing? Mainly because some of the wrestlers you disliked were some of the biggest attractions in wrestling. Goldberg, Ultimate Warrior and Kevin Nash alone are all former champions and big players in wrestling. Now in terms of wrestling they were brawlers. Personally I like brawlers and wrestlers (those who use more than a couple of punches but great wrestling holds and moves) alike. Now that you think about it so did a few other fans, or should I say 80% of the entire fan base. Because whether you realize this, which I don't think you don't, it doesn't matter if your a good wrestler or not it matters however that you have a good character because that is what the people connect with and that's how you get the majority of the fans. Now on some occasions you had wrestlers who could wrestle well and have a good character, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Eddie Guerrero, etc. While others who, as I described earlier as brawlers, just had a good character Warrior, Goldberg, and Nash. So what if a few people didn't like their matches and character, more people did. Fans majority rules, and whoever the majority of the fans really like (if a face) or dislike (if a heel), are the ones that get the push, not the ones who the fans feel indifferent about or have a small popularity. By the way I'm a fan of Goldberg but I didn't exactly like how his last match in the WWE against Brock. I don't agree that it was not only the companies fault. It was everyone who designed that match including those in the ring.
I agree with u on the crybaby thing but u have to also remember that wrestling though it is entertainment is also a sport, and we deal with the pricks and egos on our favorite teams just for the sake of winning. I also feel like some of the perks that they were offered during the Monday night wars spoiled the hell out of a lot wrestlers who would have had promising careers if they would have paid the proper dues. So go easy on the wrestler(well not to easy) because its not all (but mostly) there fault
Alan Piggott wrote:
I do agree that Goldberg was an awful wrestler, but there are thousands upon thousands of marks who would love to see him in TNA.
Maybe TNA should bring him in? His popularity would surely help theirs. However, they should only bring him in if he agreed to help put over some of their wrestlers.
Jack MacLaine wrote:
Once again Joe L, you have brought a very fun, whitty, and true article about the very worst of wrestling. I have no doubt Goldberg (aka: Captain Stiff-Kick, GoldGold, Goldturd, Botch-Berg, World's Greatest Potato Farmer, The Jackass that is the master of the Jackhammer, Bitch-Berg), is a ego maniac. It is a very scary thought that TNA's first pay-per-view while on Spike TV featured as the main event Jarrett vs NASH!!!! Very scary indeed. Jeff Hardy just goes to show you why you don't take drugs. He has no heart for the business. Maybe its because of the constant pain, maybe because of drugs, who knows. And what is there not to say about Warrior Warrior or Jim Hellwig. The man is mentally ill. Once again, I love your aticles, keep up the good work.
Jose Aguirre wrote:
I agree with your article for the most part, especially Mark Henry, a man that makes wrestlers look like inbred morons with big muscles. However, I don't agree with what you think about Jeff Hardy. He has had his problems, but if he can somehow find the passion in wrestling I think he can do amazing things. Think about it. Jeff is 29 years old and that is still relatively young in the business. Chris Benoit didn't win his world title until he was 37 and I don't see him slowing down any time soon.
Someone you should include in there is Scott Steiner, a man I didn't know existed until he was in the WWE, he had horribly sloppy matches and wore himself out in the first five minutes of his PPV match against Triple H. If he was one of the best WCW had to offer than WCW should have never been competition to WWE/F.
For the most part, I think you bring up good points in what you have to say. But there is one person I think you are being to smarkish on and thats Nash. You make fun of him because he was "injury prone" and had the injury in 2002 after only being in the ring for less then a minute. You then go on to say "thats dedication folks" in a sarcastic way. The fact is, it is. Look on the other side. Nash coming back all those tiems and doing what was needed shows dedication. Nash never gave up, you have to respect him for that.
For the most part, your column is a repeat of what Ive been hearing for the last 3 years on the internet, eversince I really found forums and such. To me, your just a cliche smark that end the end can only truly hurt the business.
Jack MacLaine wrote:
Once again Joe L, you have brought a very fun, whitty, and true article about the very worst of wrestling. I have no doubt Goldberg (aka: Captain Stiff-Kick, GoldGold, Goldturd, Botch-Berg, World's Greatest Potato Farmer, The Jackass that is the master of the Jackhammer, Bitch-Berg), is a ego maniac.
It is a very scary thought that TNA's first pay-per-view while on Spike TV featured as the main event Jarrett vs NASH!!!! Very scary indeed.
Jeff Hardy just goes to show you why you don't take drugs. He has no heart for the business. Maybe its because of the constant pain, maybe because of drugs, who knows.
And what is there not to say about Warrior Warrior or Jim Hellwig. The man is mentally ill.
Once again, I love your aticles, keep up the good work.
I think that this is a pretty good column, except i don't agree with the part about jeff hardy. He is one of my favourite wrestlers of all time. He risked his life so many times and you call him a wimp! That's not right.
Shaun B. wrote:
First of a very enjoying column, some points I liked, some I disagreed with, mainly the Goldberg section, yeah it's true he may not have been a good wrestler for instance, but this guy sold tickets, this guy was winning ratings for WCW, the reason this guy has an ego and thats bad buisness, Goldberg became a member of WCW and was pushed from the word go, thats why he has a big ego, I mean come on if you where to get pushed like he did, and have all them fans cheer when your about to make an entrance, I'm pretty sure it would go to everyone's head.
I was annoyed with how the WWE used Goldberg, but then again I'm annoyed at the WWE full stop. One more thing about Goldberg you stated about him ending Bret Hearts career, that is true, but it's the risk they take, I mean look at Sabu, didn't he have an accident at the arms of Benoit, and thats where Chris got his nickname from "The Crippler" --- I would like to see Brock and Steve Austin on the next part as, I believe these are the worst.Loook forward to seeing part 2 keep it up.
Brian L. wrote:
I really enjoyed your column. Bill Goldberg has been on my sh*t list ever since his laughable biography. In it he makes many references to his tights as black underwear, etc. Now it's one thing to make jokes about your career, but it was clear from day one that "The Man" didn't respect this business, and well that don't earn a lot of respect from me. Second, I would like to present a couple of arguments to try to change your mind about a couple of superstars.
1) Hulk Hogan- Now I gotta say that I've been a fan of Hogans from way back. But with my biases out of the way, I would like to suggest that perhaps it was the WCW's chronic mishandling of talent that was to blame instead of Hogan. I think that the Hulkster has a good deal of respect, and works his butt off, for this business. My proof is in his street fight with Michaels. Hogan didn't need to do that match, but by the end he was bleeding like a stuck pig.
2) Mark Henry- Now I have to admit that up until he returned this time, I would have been on your side. But this time things seem different somehow. I think the WWE is finally going to use Henry the way he should be. I believe he is a threat to the champion and is on the verge of getting some decent heat. I think that if the WWE were to give Davari a stable of wrestlers, Mark Henry could fit in quite nicely as an enforcer, much like King Kong Bundy was for Hennan. Let's face it, the WWE doesn't know how to handle big men anymore, I mean look at the careers of a few of the guys you mentioned Big Show & Kane: Both men work their asses off, and deserve far more than they have received. However, don't count me as a Henry mark just yet. I am reserving judgement until after Mania, and possibly until after a feud with Batista. If Henry works on it, I believe he has the potential to be one of the greatest heels in the business today. He's got the right gimmick for himself, finally, and now he just needs to add a few moves to his set... Of course if he just sits around he'll remain a never was.
Thanks for this great piece, and keep up the good work. Don't forget Test in part two.
Adam Trammel wrote:
I enjoyed reading your article. You brought up some interesting points. I agreed with what you said about Goldberg, Mark Henry, and Kevin Nash. I never looked at Nash through the glasses of this article till now. Im not sure that Jeff Hardy should have made the list. Being a long-time wrestling fan, I enjoyed watching him both in WWE and now in TNA. I don’t really need to say anything about Ultimate Warrior. I think you pretty much covered it. Cant wait till part 2
I strongly agree with Goldberg, Henry,Nash & Warrior- can't think of one match any of them has had even near classic status. Closest Goldberg ever came to 'wrestling' in his WWE stint was a Raw match against Jericho (no need to explain who made that match any good) Nash and Henry I wont even bother dissecting further. Warrior I also can't remember ever having a good match (though I was young during his 'high' point) Anyone who puts up Warrior-Hogan at Wrestlemania VI as an arguement is either a) looking at it through rose tinted spectacles b)has never seen it- was a twenty something minute match with an exchange of sleeper holds taking place for over 10.
I'm no fan of Gunn or Hardy, but neither has filled up potential quality air time with as much crap as the above, and unlike the above (minus Henry, who gets in on the size of his contract) neither was a top card player (and Jeff did have some great moments back in the day).
I digress from why I really wrote in, as part II had me excited to forward a couple of my own 'classics', but reading the responses posted so far wants me to get in an early defenses for Brock Lesnar. I was going to do Stone Cold too, but figured that isn't so interesting as in all honesty Stone Cold's career as a proper wrestler was already over at his last walkout, the neck injury was clearly worrying/affecting him as his career wound down, he just couldn't produce like 90's Austin- and unlike many other 'legends' he may have quit at the right time (if not too ceremoniously).
Brock Lesnar understandably pissed off a lot of people for the way he walked out on the industry that undoubtedly made him, but lets remember a few things:
Brock is still in his twenties and undeniably one of, if not the best all round athlete the WWE has ever had- some of the displays of power against the Big Show were truly impressive while he had the fitness to wrestle long periods and pull off an occasional high risk manouver (see Wrestlemania XVIII). It must be assumed that to get this physique Lesnar grafted for it, as do all professional sportsmen- and this is why Lesnar had to leave; on a personal level he clearly needed to be in a genuinely competitive sport to match up against others (yes wrestlers need to match up to past standards, but you know what I'm saying). To make it in any sport clearly takes skill and a lot of time, if Lesnar had left it even a couple of years longer any such crossover into 'sport' would never be considered possible by owners/managers of 'football' (I'm English, so its hard to refer to that twisted cousin of Rugby in that way- in football the ball is round guys + don't know what prime age is for football players, but guessing its late twenties early thirties) teams- if Lesnar was ever going to 'live the dream' he had to leave when he did to stand any chance of it succeeding.
From what I understand 'the dream' never worked out for Brock; which is good for the WWE as they still need him. His mic work is poor, but he was an excellent performer (ok not always, but there is not much difference in terms of age or size between Lesnar and Chris Master's, and I know who I'd rather see) against a variety of opponents- paticularly the Big Show (and how many other workers can make him look good by both selling his moves and having a realistic offence?), they had some good angles/performances, and seeing either beat the other did not hurt their credibility. If Brock were to return and it was handled right he could deliver a huge boost of interest to either show as he's not just another big man with a limited move. I'm digressing again into bringing Brock back; the point is don't list him on a list of whiners as he was always professional within the WWE (last match excluded- Goldberg was the biggest letdown of a match ever) and his reasons for leaving (while admitedly a tad laughable) where clearly genuine, as if not, why not just hang around ala Nash (this article has focused me into thinking he is the worst of all time), pick up a fat cheque and have an easy life? Whether Brock made the right decision or not is irrelevant, the fact is he made an honest life choice.
This is a great article with a lot of thought being put into it. Great Job. I agree with it completely. I know some guys love Jeff Hardy, but he fits in well on this list. Someone above stated that Steve Austin should be on this list, no way. Read Stone Cold's book. On part two, we better see this moron, Randy Orton. This guy is a complete whiner. He expects everything to be handed to him. His attitude and passion is garbage. If I had to rank'em, I'd put Orton right underneath Goldberg and The Ultimate Warrior.
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