**This Is Not An Attack** What do you think about Nick Anthony and OWW Radio?

[Bill Foley]

I know that no matter how I put this it's going to thought of as an attack but it's not. I'm an information whore. I like to learn all I can. I love OWW. I'm new here, well im not too new anymore, but anyway.
I've seen a thread put up for your thoughts on OWW radio but all I see are kudos and high fives. There's always room for improvement but it doesn't seem like anyone see's it. Now I know I'm nobody and with the wrong move or post, poof, Foley could be gone forever. But I offer you some food for thought. Nick Anthony is a radio host and a provider of entertainment. Just like WWE Monday Night Raw. People don't like Raw and they say something about it. I have an issue with the way Nick kept cutting people off when ever they tried to say something. So I brought it up and this is what Nick Said.

Originally Posted by Nick Anthony;

I can give two rat culos what you personally think about OWW Radio and moreover me. If you aren't a listener of the show, guess what I still sleep at night and sleep very well thank you.
As for the show and my opinions, it will continue to be my show and my opinions.

Now With that out there let me ask my real question. What do you think of OWW Radio and what if anything would you change or add to it to make it better?

Personnally IDK. I've been having trouble accessing it lately. But from what I've already heard it's good/ok. I just want more wrestling than they provide. More insde opinion from the people that have the format to give it. IT's already there I just want more. Anyway. Let me take a time out to apologize to shockage. I swear this isn't an attack. I just want to know what the people think.

[NDX]

If you have concerns with how the radio is run, you shold bring them up in the Open Mic forums for the show.

[McFly]

If you are concerned with just him cutting people off then why dont you PM him or talk to him privately?

[NDX]

Originally Posted by Bill Foley

I agree with you but I wanted to put this in a forum where I wouldn't get shut up because im new and don't deserve the right to ask questions. I'm aware this thread might fit better else where but it's still appropriate here.

You still put this in the wrong forum. There is a place for a thread like this, and Gen. Chat is not it. We have a board for this in the radio forum, but if you feel you're not going to be taken seriously, you should address those concerns privately.

I'm offended that you would think that we would just ignore your concerns just because you are new. We take all concerns under consideration. That is why there is a team of us and not just 1 person running the show.

[ThomC1010]

Moved to Open Mic.

[NDX]

Originally Posted by ThomC1010

Moved to Open Mic.

Thank you.

[Shockage]

On behalf of the OWW Radio Producers, we welcome and encourage any level of concerns regarding OWW Radio on this thread. We assure you that the Radio Producers WILL NOT take liberties in embarrassing or burying any users who offer criticism towards the show. Please be honest and speak freely.

[Truth]

Genesis supports Radio. Radio supports Genesis.

/Robot Voice

[Mighty Boosh]

Nick can have a bit of an ego but to be fair I've never met him and can't tell for sure. I understand your complaint and respect it but you know Nick cutting people off and being a bit of a jerk is often very entertaining, I imagine it can be annoying for the person who gets cut off but sometimes I get the feeling he's just moving the show along and though he can be a little rude they all get the chance to show their opinion. It's all part of his radio persona and I imagine there's far worse Rdio hosts

[The Legend Killer]

That's just Nick being Nick. To be honest, it's pretty funny when he does it. Nick ain't my closest friend on here, but, I think I know him well enough to know his personality. He's not looking to bury anyone on the show, to make anyone look dumb, or anything like that. He's just one of those guys that is going to get his point across to you whether you like his point or not. He does have a bit of an ego, but, thats what makes Nick who he is! He doesn't let things bother him. I remember when WrestleMania 25 aired, EVERYBODY was talking about how awful it was, and Nick kept going on about how much he loved it. Was he being serious? I don't know, but, it was still fun! When I called up the show to talk to him about WM25, one of the things he said was, "Oh come on, I know YOU didn't order it!" Maybe it was kind of a personal attack, but, I still got a kick out of it. It's all in good fun. Anytime i'm asked to do OWW Radio, I go for it. He's a great guy to goof off with. If you told him the sky was blue, he'd probably argue that you're lying, and it's really green. Really, what kind of Nick would you prefer? This Nick, or a Ben Stein style Nick? Just some boring, monotone, depressed sounding guy? I don't personally know Nick, but, i'd bet that OWW Radio Nick, and personal life Nick are 2 different people. Coming from the same type of industry, I can get why he is like he is. When I do comedy shows, i'm this hyperactive bouncy in your face guy. But, off stage, i'm just this calm, laid back, I dont want no drama, COD4 playing dude. Nicks a really good dude, I ain't nothing bad to say about him. If you heard the older OWW Radio shows, it kind of shows. Especially when him and Creed argue. They sound like they despise eachother, but, during the "Get Well Creed" Show, Nick wasn't that guy, he was just another concerned friend of Creed. Give the guy a chance!

[Truth]

Just because Shockage forced me to do this -

The way I see it, a symbiotic relationship should exist between Radio and Genesis. The Radio show should deliver opinions on wrestling related subjects and give reviews of recent shows. The fact is the producers don't post much across the forums (with the exception of NDX and Kaveman) so the show would be a good place to get their wrestling opinions across. On the same hand the forum members need to offer feedback and opinions of their own, not just across the forum, but in a specific location or emailed directly to the staff.

A good way to for the Staff to work for this feedback would be to post a topic in the Open Mic forum two or three days before the show consisting of the ENTIRE show rundown that is produced every week. From there the users can leave their reactions to some of the things that will be discussed or, since they know what'll be discussed, encourage them to call into the toll-free phone number that is constantly being whored around. It would also give you a chance to gauge what the users actually care about and change some of the less interesting stories last minute.

Inaccuracy is a major turnoff and it runs rampant on OWW Radio. Simple things like mispronunciations, past gimmicks being confused for wrestlers, or past controversies that are often brought up and presented completely wrong on the show are bad for the show's image. You don't have to be a wrestling historian to host a show, just do a little research beforehand. The rundown that Shooter prepares is always available at least 24-hours before the show (should be sooner but see above for that that complaint) so it's not like you DON'T know what's coming but often times Nick and whoever else is on the show seems completely blindsided with what comes up. OWW Radio's strength has always been it's interviews and that's because of the MASSIVE amounts of research that actually goes into them. This should spread to the rest of the show.

One of the few parts I always enjoyed when I listened was Kave's This Week in Wrestling History because he actually DOES the research for his segment and the work shows. He's often also able to comment on alot of the moments he brings up - before he's inevitably cut off by Nick.

Nick Anthony's opinions are fine in doses but we get sick of hearing just them. Very few of the other producers ever step onto the show with him so why would other users be encouraged to do so? He also needs to stop cutting people off so much and let them actually finish the thoughts they're on. Constantly with the "Wait a minute, you're saying...." - if you'd actually give the other person a chance to get their opinion across you may actually understand what they're saying instead of trying to put words in their mouth. People tune into the show expecting wrestling news, opinions, and interviews - the first and third are there, the second is lacking.

Nick often promotes the show as entertainment but the fact is it's not that entertaining. Check out a morning zoo style radio show - that's entertaining. Sound effects can be utilized better. Right off the top of my head and since Nick has been championing it lately, iTunes has an entire Iron Sheik sound board available for download for $.99 - I believe there's over 50 classic "Sheiky" comments on it. If Nick can't rely on the producers to come on and help him with opinions, why not back up his own opinions with a little Iron Sheik and at least make us laugh. And if you don't want to do the research for the news and opinions section of the show why not steal a cue from Pardon the Interruption and have a segment at the very end of the show where someone comes on to address and correct the inaccuracies? That'd be funny and different.

Wrestling and maybe some MMA is what I want to hear about. Not a ballon boy, not football, and not one of the producers getting arrested. Nick has refused to break down the weekly shows - that's fine but you could at least look at each show and react to it as a whole. You could try to figure out the storylines going into the PPVs and discuss what they're doing wrong, what they're doing right, and where things are going in the grand scheme of things. Radio can't be on top of the news since it's broadcast once a week but you can be on top of the happenings in the wrestling world and showcase something that Genesis has in abundance, a wealth of actual wrestling knowledge.

[hosti|e]

Guy has a god complex, tried listening once and never went back.

[Truth]

I didn't defend him, I pointed out what I thought were problems with the show. It's what everyone should do.

[thethirdwarren]

I agree with the fact that it should be more, or matter of fact ALL about wrestling since it's OWW Radio. I also agree with Nick on like all his government things. I think he should do a side project where he can discuss the news based things and then he wouldn't have to bring it up on OWW Radio. I would be SO MAD if OWW Radio turned into WWE Raw just worrying about pushing it's own agendas and not caring about the fans lol. I don't like getting wrestling being taken out of my wrestling based products.

[K3587]

This entire opinion is based on the only show I have listened to: the one with Bret Hart. I felt that Nick went off on a tangent too many times. He discussed healthcare, current events, etc. etc. He also mentioned he has a talk radio show elsewhere. Personally, I think he should keep those opinions and such on the other show.

My coworker was listening to it with me in the work truck. He doesn't watch wrestling. He agreed with me when I said the segment with Bret was very enjoyable, but most of the rest of the show felt like filler. This week in wrestling history was interesting, as well as match of the week. I feel that the 2 hour show could have been cut in half, and it would have been great.

I enjoyed the wrestling-related part of the show. There was just too much to fast forward through to find it. Once again, this may not be the typical case. I'm only basing this off of the one show I have listened to.

[Turley]

The show is great.
The host definitely has to try to get himself over, its part and parcel of the business these guys are in. It may come across whilst listening that it is a one man band but clearly it is not the case....

I challenge anyone to come up with a better alternative.

[Creed]

Originally Posted by Bill Foley

I know that no matter how I put this it's going to thought of as an attack but it's not. I'm an information whore. I like to learn all I can. I love OWW. I'm new here, well im not too new anymore, but anyway.

Originally Posted by Bill Foley

Now I know I'm nobody and with the wrong move or post, poof, Foley could be gone forever.

Originally Posted by Bill Foley

Let me take a time out to apologize to shockage. I swear this isn't an attack.

I hate how people, especially new users, are terrified of the authority here. It makes this place feel like a prison. Maybe you're just learning from example after seeing others easily punished or something, but let me tell you, NOBODY should be afraid of voicing their opinion.

A forum is a place where all opinions should be welcome, not just the popular or conformist ones. And I like to think that the staff agree.

As Shockage stated, criticism is welcome here. As long as it is constructive.

New people, do not be afraid of the friggin staff here, PLEASE! They are not more important people than you, they are also just wrestling fans using a forum, not politicians or cops. Their primary job is just to keep the forum in good shape, not to punish.

[piperfan]

I am honestly not a fan of the show. My major complaint is the content which by listening to the comments made by Nick concerning recent events really just turns me off to the whole show. When I listen to a WRESTLING radio show I expect just that. I hear enough about the "balloon boy" incident from other sources and I would like to not hear it in my wrestling show. I know there isn't a TON of wrestling news each week and the show has to be filled somehow. Well then maybe the show shouldn't be as long.

I realize that Nick has an opinion and I totally respect his opinion but the way he comes across he makes his opinion sound like it is fact and again makes me stop the show. I was there for the WM25 live chat and when Nick began to state his opinion and when we would disagree he would act like he was on the defensive and we were attacking him. Nick can have his opinion but he has to accept people will not always agree.

I also feels there is almost no interaction with the guest its almost like you give them a question and move on. Rinse and Repeat. I know it might be hard to get a reaction out of them but don't make it seem like you have an agenda.(I do realize for people like Bret you have a limited amount of time)

I have tried time and time again to try to like this show but when one guy is just talking and not that many people jump in it makes the show feel stale and slow very fast. I know it may not be marketed as true fact that Nick is really just playing a character to make it entertaining but honestly it doesn't feel that entertaining. I am willing to give this show another try and really do hope that it does well.

Also Creed I can totally see why new users are afraid to make a suggestion or criticize by the way Nick responded to his concern was totally ignored and just down right rude. Nick's response was basically "I don't care if you watch its MY show." After a statement like that if Nick doesn't care if we listen then why should I?

[Toron]

lol I think it was well-documented throughout the final weeks of the summer the way I feel about this show.

There's no point in me diving back into that entire discussion. I did my best to always listen to every show, in its entirety, and then did my best to always comment on what I thought of the show, to try and help it as best I thought. But, after the last time, for reasons I still do not understand, a heated discussion got started. Things went back and forth, Nick and myself start fighting over things, nothing was getting down. Things were only becoming more confusing.

Luckily this argument was taking place right before my upcoming school year. So when my school year started, last September, I was unable to log on to the site for a while and everything was then given a chance to cool down. When I signed up on this site, there were two things I told myself I didn't want to get involved in, unlike in other wrestling forums I have/are apart of. I didn't want to put myself in any position of authority on this site, and give myself any extra work, and I didn't want to get into any fights, which ultimately are just wasted time. I wanted to just be a regular member on this site (something I hadn't been on any other wrestling site I have joined up on) and that was it.

After all our arguments and discussions that were taking place at the end of the summer. We were not getting anywhere, things were getting more confusing and convoluted. The only clear message I was getting during that whole argument at the end was from Nick and that message, to me, seemed like he no longer cared what I had to say and was not going to even try and understard my point of views.

So, instead of getting more invovled in the whole ordeal, I decided to take one of Nick's "advices" to me. It is stupid getting so involved in something over the internet, so instead of worrying my mind over the situation anymore, I decided to just give up and have not listened to an OWW Radio show since then, nor do I plan to ever listen again.

I may not agree with where this show has headed. But the producers of the show, including Nick, seem to like the direction very much. So, who am I to complain? I figured if anybody on the show ever wants to ask my opinion on something again, all they have to do is come up to me and ask. But there is no longer any need for me to listen to something I don't enjoy. I'll do what I do, they'll do what they do.

So, I guess the whole point of this message of mine, is to tell anybody who decides to read this that if you start to dislike what you are listening to, provide your opinions if you like, but if things start to get heated for whatever reason, just stop listening, because it's not worth getting into anything too detrimental.

[Ramon's Razor]

Originally Posted by Truth

Genesis supports Radio. Radio supports Genesis.

/Robot Voice

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[pumpt73]

Well when it comes to Nick, I personally like the guy. Yes he comes off as arrogant to some, if you will, but you have to understand, that's his personality. NA has a wealth of information on a number of various topics, which is what makes him so easy for me to listen to. Don't get me wrong, I love discussing wrestling, but it's also nice to take a small break and discuss real issues that effect people like me and you. Sometimes we let things get to us and it builds and builds, so it's nice to have Nick as a voice for those things. Now I understand it's a wrestling show, but it doesn't hurt to discuss other topics here and there.

Don't let it get to you. I had a pretty good discussion with Nick about steroids if I recall and basically how the human body processes nutrition etc. and to be honest, it did get a little intense, but we never called each other names. We stated our positions and debated. It's nice to get a good healthy debates like that once in a while. Now, as for him cutting people off, it's done all the time on radio. I listen to the local sports talk radio out of Detroit, and it happens all the time. Nothing to get upset about. I think if you have issues against Nick, talk to him. He's not against discussing any issue you may have with him. He will state his position and hold firm to it, just remember, that's how he is. To be honest, we need more people like that in this World. At least in my opinion.

[The Legend Killer]

Good post Pumpt. You make a good point. I can respect that this is a wrestling forum and people want to talk about wrestling, but, not all of us have the privelage of being able to have an intelligent conversation about issues that affect everyday people with someone. I like Nicks diversity. This is the only forum i've ever been on that isn't full of loud mouth immature idiots. So, I like that I can talk about current events and stuff on here and no-ones going to make me feel like a moron for no reason. At least if I don't have a good point people will tell me. And as far as Nick cutting people off, look at it this way. At least you know he's listening to you. At least you know he's not one of those hosts thats going to ramble on and on, and then when you get your chance to talk, he sits there and plays Solitaire. Nicks the kind of guy that likes to get a rise out of people. Like when he was talking about WM 25. I'm sure he knows it sucked, and i'm sure he didn't like it as much as he was going on, but, it would have got boring if he sat there and just, "Oh my god that was awful. What a crappy WM." People would have just thought, "Oh, well, he's just saying what I said, nothing special." But since he was defending it, it got people talking and wanting to talk to him for it. I think that makes him a damn good radio host. He knows what works. And I can respect the fact that he speaks his mind. Whenever I did OWW Smark Jeopardy, I got abunch of questions wrong, and Nick didn't hesitate to tell me how bad I was doing. Hell, I knew I was doing bad, but, it was fun to joke about it. He does a good job with his radio show. I always get a kick out of hearing what hes pissed off about.

[The Shooter]

I've been waiting to read some of the responses to this before replying to it. As both the executive producer of OWW Radio, and an Administrator here on OWW Genesis, I feel the most qualified to try and put any concerns to rest.

I don't want anyone to ever feel afraid to voice their opinions about the show, and I know both the entire radio production team and the Genesis staff agree. And I don't feel like there is any reason to have a fear of persecution for stating unfavourable opinions. From the forum staff end - I think Creed put it best. We're not politicians or cops. Our primary job is just to keep the forum in good shape, not to punish. If posts violate the forum rules, then yes they will be deleted. Other than that, all posts are left as-is. Compimentary, or not. From the radio production team end - yes, we will defend our opinions if we feel the need to do so. If we didn't, wouldn't the show be pretty boring? Opinions drive talk radio.

Now, with that being said, I want to address what seem to be the major issues with the show. Yes, Nick does occasionally cut people off. And yes, even the production team has commented to Nick about this. But you need to understand that Nick is trained to avoid "dead air". His job is to always keep the show moving. Unfortunately, that means he'll occasionally accidentally cut people off.

When it comes to the creative direction of the show it's self, a well known saying comes to mind. "You can't please all of the people, all of the time". Some people obviously enjoy the creative direction of OWW radio, and some obviously don't. That's fine. Different people are always going to listen to different shows for different reasons. The simple fact is, we can't appeal to every single one of those fans. And we don't try to. A single show can't go in a hundred different creative directions to try and please a hundred different kinds of fans.

So, for those who enjoy what we do - thank you, and we'll continue to strive to bring you OUR vision of wrestling talk radio.

[ThomC1010]

There's just a couple things I want to comment about. First of all the things I enjoy most about the show are the interviews (when it's with somebody I have heard of or care about), and then Kaveman's "This week in wrestling" segment is probably my favorite part of the show.

I don't really care to hear about the news on the show, since I'm on the forum so much I get to read about the news before the show covers it. I don't blame you guys (production team) for that, there isn't anything you could do to change that. Then there is the current affairs stuff. I don't care to hear about the world news while I am listening to a wrestling show, that's what the news is for. Again, I don't blame you for that either. It's Nick's show, so he can do pretty much what he wants with it.

For the people who have the same complaints that I have, you can always fast forward through the current affairs, or the wrestling news segments and get to the parts of the show that you enjoy. As long as you are listening to the show I'm sure the production team will be happy.

[Shockage]

Thank you to everyone who contributed to this discussion. The OWW Radio team has spent the last week reading your thoughts and we are greatly appreciative for your praises and especially your concerns. We assure those who were respectful in their critiques towards OWW Radio that your concerns did not fall on deaf ears.

We have seriously taken every positive and constructive comment into thorough consideration; we are currently in the process of implementing change into the product to ensure that OWW Radio becomes a better show.

However for these changes to occur we need your ongoing support, we need your interaction through email or voice mail. The OWW Radio email and toll free telephone number has been in operation for a number of months waiting to be used however we have had very little feedback from our Genesis community. We endeavour to make sure that your thoughts on making OWW Radio a better capable product are met but you have to be fair and meet us half way. The last thing we want is to make all these changes and then to never hear from you again until next time when someone else makes a post asking whether they like OWW Radio or not, it doesn't work that way. We are serious on these changes and hope that you help us see this through.

A newly polished OWW Radio will return in a week's time. OWW Radio will be accessible to download from itunes, clickwrestle.com and heard from the main site so we hope to hear from you through email/phone/feedback. There will also be a major announcement regarding OWW Radio in the near so stay tuned.

Again we thank you for your feedback.



OWW Radio Team