OWW Radio #14 - Evan Ginzburg (July 21, 2009)

[Shockage]

OWW Radio Episode 14 hosted by Nick Anthony is now available for your listening pleasure. OWW Radio Welcomes this week's featured guest Evan Ginzburg; Associate Producer of the acclaimed film The Wrestler and host of Evan Ginzburg's Legends radio show.

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[Toron]

Wow, that was a long show. Definatly the longest one you guys have done so far.

The interview with Evan Ginzburg was awsome. I think, one of the best interviews this show has had so far. I am definatly going to check out his website and am actually currently in the process of downloading one of his radio shows.

The rest of the show was O.K but there's always been something stale about it. That's what I always thought. I think I figured it out though. Maybe not so much Lord Alfred, but the rest of you guys sound so boring. Your all too serious. Who else is on there, Kaveman, Truth, I think it was you guys on today's show, whenever one of you started talking, you sounded so.......... boring lol. I don't mean that as an insult, but you guys don't always have to be so serious. Loosen up, laugh more, joke more, have some fun with things. Alfred always seems like he's having a good time, you guys should open up more as well. Trust me, I used to host a wrestling radio show myself, I know what I'm talking about. It's always more fun when everybody is laughing, and acting out, not always being completely serious, and truly sounding like thier having a good time. Plus, are you guys supposed to be co-hosts? If so, you guys can talk more to and bring up your own topics and don't always have to concede to Lord Alfred.

Hmm, now that I'm actually putting more thought into this. You know what else, I have always felt, has come off stale with this show. Some of the topics you guys are talking about are popular, primary, topics of the day, so everybody is talking about them, but it comes off sounding........umm........worse when you guys talk about it. I don't know why but it just rubs me the wrong way. Actually, I think I know why. This is probaly gunna come off sounding rude but I don't mean it to be. I'm just giving you all my honest feedback on what I think of your shows and trying to provide for you all suggestions on things that I think will help your show. A lot of your shows, in regards to the topics you guys talk about, a lof of the time, I feel, you guys don't sound that smart. Like, you see better discussions of the same topic being discussed within the actual thread itself here on this forum and on other wrestling radio shows. So, Im sitting here listening to you guys talk about the Lesnar aftermath from UFC 100 and I found myself skipping over it because you guys didnt sound that good. I remember listening to this other wrestling radio show here in Toronto which spent the same amount of time talking about the same thing as you guys were, the Lesnar thing, but I was intrigued and they thought of interesting things to bring to the discussion. I think a lot of this actually falls on your lap Alfred, because since you dominate every discussion on the show, a lot of the things you say just............arn't smart. lol. Again, I don't mean this as an insult, but like, what might help, is if you brought ppl on who were good at combating you and getting thier ponts across. I think Kaveman and Truth are smart and can do that but they come across very boring and held back that it sounds like they're always conceding to you Alfred.

I find it very stupid that you don't understand why Lesnar bashing Budwieser was a bad thing. Your entitled to your opinion but then I think you need to bring guys on that can truly combat you and tell you why, help you understand why, what Lesnar did wasn't neccessarily good. Becausen you shouldn't have spent so much time on the obvious topic. Was what lesnar did good or bad? After Kaveman, I think it was, said for the first time its bad because he was bashing the sponsor of your company, that was the end of it, and you should have moved on. Perhaps you could have talked about the rest of Lesnar's post-match actions, like when he flipped off the crowd and when he talked about sleeping with his wife. That was the more interesting part of his post-match actions because many MMA/UFC purists found that to be very disrespectful of Lesnar and hated him for it. Where as, since you were supporting what Lesnar did Alfred, you could have said something like, "hey, Lesnar was just cutting a very good heel promo. That's what sells PPV's." You could have talked about how your tired of the boring "respect" thing in UFC and how, finally, some1 comes by who legitametly hates the guy he is fighting against and mocking him after he defeated him was more real, and therefore more interesting, then anything else. You know what I mean? There was so much more about this topic you guys could have talked about, that would have been much more interesting, then what you guys did just talk about. I felt, instead of this being an interesting, back and forth, radio show discussion on the entire topic of UFC 100, and on Lesnar's actions, it was more like 20 mnutes of Truth and Kaveman trying to convince Alfred why it was bad for Lesnar to disregard Budwieser like he did. Which really, once again, is not that hard of a concept to understand Alfred and you guys should have finished up this part of the discussion in like 1 minute and moved on to the more interesting discussins you guys could have been having on what Brock Lesnar did. That way, its more interesting for us listeners, because I'd much rather here you guys talking about that then hearing you guys trying to spend 20 minutes convincing Alfred of a topic that I feel ashamed for Alfred for not already knowing himself, and then ending up in the same place as you guys started, without Alfred understanding and/or changing his mind on the Budweiser topic.

Again, I don't mean to come off as rude or anything but this is how I feel. I know this show isn't like, an actual professional radio show that ppl can tune into ther radios and listen to, so you guys are permitted a lot of leeway, but I feel at this point in the game, if you do truly want to get better, and keep the interest, you have to start making these changes, and, for lack of a better word, become...... smarter. Smarter in the way you hold these discussions and the things you guys choose to talk about, not smarter as I mean you guys are dumb with a low IQ lol. Whenever I listen to other wrestling radio shows, including the professional one here in Toronto I mentioned earlier on in this post, they all come off sounding better, smarter, and have more professional discussions and I enjoy listening to them much more then you guys.

So, um ya, lol. That's what was floating around in my mind after I finished listening to this show. Had to get that off my chest. I hope no1 was truly offended by anythng I said, I'm just trying to help. I'm going to keep listening to these shows when I have the time, but after a while, if you guys don't, for a lack of a better word again, professionalize yourselves a little more, I can easily find myself saying there's no point in listeing to your shows anymore because I can read better discussions on the forum and listen to better discussions on other radio shows. I don't want that to happen.

one last point lol. The best matches of the week segment you have now is always going to go to ROH . And back in 1973, when Kaveman said that Dory Funk Jr. didn't want to drop the NWA belt to Jack Brisco is not neccessarily true. Many ppl, especially the Brisco's liked to assume it was, but in fact Dory Funk Jr. was set to lose the belt to Brisco in Houston sometime in March of 73, but a week or so before, while Dory Funk was up at the famous Double Cross Ranch he got into some kind of truck accident. He was too badly injured and was unable to wrestle for atleast a month or so after this incident which is why the scheduled Brisco/Funk match never took pace. The NWA board changed thier plans quickly to accomodate Brisco as the champion, so when Funk was good to wrestle again, he lost the belt to one of his 1st challengers back in the ring, Harley Race, so he could drop the belt a month or so after to Jack Brisco. Some ppl like to claim that Funk never really got injured, that he just didn't want to drop the belt to Brisco, but I like to believe that he really was, and it ended up just being an unfortunate coincadence for Brisco.

And ya, I know, I'm a walking/talking wrestling encyclopedia as well


P.S- Your black Alfred?

[Shockage]

He's black and beautiful.

[Nick Anthony]

HAHAHAHA here we go YES im Black.

[Truth]

If so, you guys can talk more to and bring up your own topics and don't always have to concede to Lord Alfred.

JUST ONCE I wish Nick would put the unedited recording on air. I think alot of the issues you're talking about (as far as the boredom and the producers always conceding to Nick at least) would be addressed.

Dick has the splicing capabilities so Dick gets the last word.

And back in 1973, when Kaveman said that Dory Funk Jr. didn't want to drop the NWA belt to Jack Brisco is not neccessarily true. Many ppl, especially the Brisco's liked to assume it was, but in fact Dory Funk Jr. was set to lose the belt to Brisco in Houston sometime in March of 73, but a week or so before, while Dory Funk was up at the famous Double Cross Ranch he got into some kind of truck accident. He was too badly injured and was unable to wrestle for atleast a month or so after this incident which is why the scheduled Brisco/Funk match never took pace. The NWA board changed thier plans quickly to accomodate Brisco as the champion, so when Funk was good to wrestle again, he lost the belt to one of his 1st challengers back in the ring, Harley Race, so he could drop the belt a month or so after to Jack Brisco. Some ppl like to claim that Funk never really got injured, that he just didn't want to drop the belt to Brisco, but I like to believe that he really was, and it ended up just being an unfortunate coincadence for Brisco.

Dory was also on the show a few months ago and talked about this very thing! How can you not remember that Dick?!

[Toron]

Originally Posted by Truth

Dory was also on the show a few months ago and talked about this very thing! How can you not remember that Dick?!

lol he did?????

Wow, I don't remember.

When I have the time, I'm going to go back to that episode and listen to it again lol.

[wolfie27]

Originally Posted by Nick Anthony

HAHAHAHA here we go YES im Black.

so...you are admitting that you are
















Not beautiful? j/k with ya.

[kaveman1969]

Dory Jr. being in an accident and not being able to defend against Brisco has never been proven regardless of what Funk says or said. It is fact that Funk Jr. was supposed to drop the belt to Brisco, and instead, for whatever reason dropped it to Race.
What I researched and what I said on the show was based off of fact, except for the part where I put my opinion in.
I helped interview Dory Funk Jr. You think I don't know his story on it?

I have three pages of things to go over, and I do it through credible sources three times over. Then it's cut down even more as all of it won't fit on the show.

Funny Toron that you have all of these opinions on what would be better, or what was wrong, yet I haven't heard you call in once to say anything.

You sound like a Monday morning quarterback.

[Shockage]

Toron, no wonder you lost your debate against Horsemen, just kidding *hugs*

[Nick Anthony]

My original thought on the show although not favorable is original. And that's what I would like to bring to the show. I enjoyed reading your post Toron and I appreciate the feedback. The fact that you disagree with me on the Budweiser/Lesnar story and wrote in about it, whether you thought it was dumb or not. I want that backlash. I write these post and emails and do the radio show to get opinions, fresh opinions and original thoughts. Not some other radio shows or other members from the Forum or better yet what you read somewhere else. I'm here to spark conversation. To bring up an emotion whatever that emotion maybe. Reading your post, I say job complete.

[The Legend Killer]

Really good show guys. One of the best so far. And why do you gotta bring up Heidenreich!? Thats a memory that WWE fans would like to forget. He was cool for about...... a week. Hawkenreich....*facepalm* And I still will not rest until Kaveman yells out "Captain Kave....MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!"

[Toron]

Originally Posted by kaveman1969

Funny Toron that you have all of these opinions on what would be better, or what was wrong, yet I haven't heard you call in once to say anything.

Oh, so writing things up the old fashiond way is to old-school for you eh?

lol

[kaveman1969]

Originally Posted by Toron

Oh, so writing things up the old fashiond way is to old-school for you eh?

lol

Not at all, lol. I don't think there's too much out there too old school for me, lol.

Like Nick said, any feedback is appreciated, positive or negative.

How is it fact that Dory didn't drop the belt to Brisco because he was injured though. Dory is quick to point that out but won't say why he didn't just drop the belt to Brisco when he came back.

You tend to believe Dory's version of the story, and I tend to believe Briscos.
It makes sense that Dory Sr. wouldn't want him to drop the belt to another face, in turn making Brisco look like the better wrestler.

So, lets have Dory Jr. come back too soon from an "accident" and drop the title to a heel Race. Win/win as far as the Funks were concerned.

But, why not come back and drop the belt to Brisco as originally planned, unless he really didn't want to?
That doesn't hold water with me man. I believe Brisco, and that was why I included it.

[Toron]

lol I wasn't planning on having a debate on this.

Maybe you are right. I do not know. But I tend to believe the good sides of ppl and so if Dory Jr. says he was injured, I tend to believe him. But maybe you are right.

However, just to add to the discussion. Maybe Dory really was injured and was unable to drop the belt to Brisco as scheduled. And you know how hectic it is being a professional wrestler. Maybe Jack Brisco already had a lot of bookings and was unable to immediatly face off against Dory when he returned from his injury. But the NWA board wanted to go ahead with thier plans and put the title on Jack Brisco as soon as possible. So, Harley Race may have been the only man with enough credibility back then with enough free time to make the challenge against Dory Funk. Right place, right time. So he defeated Dory for the title and then was able to drop the belt to Brisco a couple of weeks later, possibly at a time much earlier then Dory Funk's schedule would have allowed him to meet up with Jack Brisco had he still had the belt which is why the NWA board decided for Funk to drop the belt to Race.

And maybe none of this is true. I don't know. I don't think we'll ever know the truth. But its fun to think about

[kaveman1969]

Right on bro!! Good stuff!! Anyway, your comments on the show have been noted and thanks for taking the time to let us know what you thought.

It really is appreciated.