Differences between working for WWE and the independent circuit: “Wrestling-wise, there’s a huge difference. You see me on the television, that can be under 10 minutes … on the independent circuit the longest match I ever did was, I think, 76 minutes.”
What’s independent in his heart: “Think how you want. Create how you want. I love wrestling because it’s an act of creativity, despite that you’re on TV and work for this massive corporation. Nobody’s telling me exactly how to wrestle … sometimes they’ll tell me, ‘You shouldn’t do this’, then the fire inside me … I know wrestling isn’t exactly changing the world, but it’s a small act of defiance.
“I have no interest in being rich. I have no interest in being famous. Everything in the media is telling you, ‘Buy, buy, buy.’ I don’t want to buy anything. Once your needs are met, then you don’t need anything else.”